isn't this sort of the bigger issue than where we are on the fiscal cliff. >> if you are a family values person, how can you possibly support this low wage economy where we are pushing wages down and down. we now rank second in the world, in the modern world, only slightly better than south korea in the share of our workers with low wages. we have flooded the market with low wage workers. it is a very serious problem. >> this feels like where the social safety net is coming in. if we look at walmart workers, the quintessential sort of low wage workers, the state of california, congresswoman, ends up paying $86 million in basically social safety net, food subsidies and the floor that is not provided by walmart, the employer. isn't this the thing that we need to be having a conversation about? >> that's one of the reasons the republicans have such a problem with obama care, for example. we are talking about moving away from employer-based, in a sense, requirement of where you work for your safety net and really saying everybody should have it and, by the way, everybody is going to put in t